Congressional Cardio

The president's so concerned about the nation's health that he won't let the Congress go an hour without a good amount of squats.
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Connor

I think health care reform is a pretty good idea. I also think I'll be able to take a firmer stance on the issue once there's an actual bill. And because there is not, I think some of the major concerns, such as the cost, are legitimate. But I really hope the petty arguments stop soon. But right now, things aren't the best, so I think it's worth a try to improve them.

If you disagree, please don't hesitate to say so/call me out on my bullshit. (Keep it civil though, please.)

Connor







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User's Comments:

Bran'n Greenlaser (Guest), September 12th, 2009, 1:44 am

YOU LIE!

GregSushiman (Guest), September 12th, 2009, 3:32 am

Having health reform and other such things is a cute idea, but in the end, the US government is far too far in debt to even dream of it. The population is too large and the class splits too many for a near 3 trillion dollar down government fighting a losing war in the Middle East to cope. Ultimately, Obama just says what the people want to hear, while adding confetti and chocolate cake to his speeches to elude the population of the boundaries of what he wants to do, and what he is capable of doing. All this leads to is many words but no actions.
Just my 2 cents.

robybang, September 12th, 2009, 8:18 am

I think everyone can agree that our current health care system needs fixing. It's just a disagreement on how to fix it. I think we should actually be deregulating the private insurance companies and allowing companies to sell insurance across state lines. The fact that the companies wouldn't be forced to cover every single trip to the hospital and wouldn't be limited to one state would keep prices down. You might get some shady companies dealing insurance, but with the internet as a research tool, the good companies would eventually outnumber the bad.

Also, my parents are military and I'm on Tricare, which suuuucks. If you get in an injury not major enough for the emergency room, but important enough to see a doctor right away, you have to call Tricare, so they can call your regular doctor, so they can get permission to allow you to go the nearest hospital. Why anyone would want a system like this besides it's low cost is beyond me

Misty (Guest), September 12th, 2009, 2:19 pm

I personally believe health care is absolutely NOT something that should be government run. And before anyone thinks that I'm trying to claim poor people don't deserve health care, I want to add on that it doesn't need to be government run in order to provide for those who can't afford. I think, instead of jerking health care away from private insurers (and putting everyone who works for them out of a job) the government should provide vouchers to the unemployed and poor, so that they can get government funded healthcare from private insurers. The government can't magically pull money out of nowhere, so if they took over health care, either the national debt would skyrocket, or taxes would, both of which would virtually kill the economy, and would do FAR more harm than good.

robybang, September 12th, 2009, 2:23 pm

The government would have to pay for the vouchers for all the unemployed and poor.

GregSushiman (Guest), September 12th, 2009, 3:17 pm

It's really not an easy situation, since all road lead to debt(as opposed to Rome:P) in the end for government.
Perhaps in the future there would be an exceptionally low quality health-care package from government offered to the entire population?
People who have the money and ability can rely on insurance from the company/business they work for or from separate insurance companies.
Thus everyone has cover, just some better than others(but hey, that's what Capitalism's about, eh?).If I'm not mistaken, that's more or less how the Australian government works concerning health-care.
One big problem I have with government is their solid belief that "If you see a problem, throw it with a bag of money".
This may work for a while, but ultimately it's a 'give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish, and you feed him for a life-time' scenario.
Government needs to look into finding long-term solutions. Why give vouchers to the unemployed when the state can hire them as street sweepers, handy men etc.? Sure, it's not the most glamorous solution, but at least these people are earning money honestly and decently, and not leeching cash vouchers off government like slugs sucking the life out-of a person who needs the blood most.

robybang, September 12th, 2009, 6:19 pm

Should the government have to be involved at all? I mean, look at farm subsidies. In theory, they support struggling farmers and regulate the commodities market. In practice, it's all too easy to scam this system, and it messes up the market more than it's worth. Sure you could come up with some sort of better subsidies program where farmers have to prove their worth or reeducate unneeded farmers, etc, etc...but the fact of the matter is that this makes things more complicated. More bureaucrats to hire, more rules to be made, more money to be spent, and an even more complicated system that makes it easier to mooch off of. Look at New Zealand. They don't even do subsidies anymore and they're even better without it. If government isn't needed to regulate market or agriculture, do they really need to be in healthcare?

Ennokni, September 12th, 2009, 6:58 pm

Well first off, the government gets a lot of money from taxes, and those are pretty constant. Secondly, I cannot argue about cost because there's no bill yet. But I think we'll be able to pay for it.

robybang, September 12th, 2009, 8:20 pm

Keep in mind though that we spend more than we actually earn in taxes. Unlike the states, the national government isn't required to balance the budget, meaning we're now spending through bonds we issued to other countries. If China (one of the biggest buyers of our debt) were to come around and ask to collect on their share, we'd be so screwed. And we owe enough as is:

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Midnight_Luna, September 12th, 2009, 11:47 pm

I don't really care about politics, it's just not my subject. But I thought the strip was funny because I like aeorbics and the first day of school was on wendsday...Nice stick figures.

Apple (Guest), September 13th, 2009, 1:21 am

So politcal! Haha, who woulda known Drawing Board would turn into a political sandbox. haha

Smarmodon (Guest), September 13th, 2009, 4:33 pm

Gov't Healthcare Indeed! I was cracking up the entire time. It was "one sentence, clap, repeat".
Seriously though, did anyone listen to the actual speech? Public option is NOT government-run, NOT government funded (excluding the startup costs- 90 billion over 10 years is not bad considering the trillions of dollars Bush had put us into debt over the 8 years he ran the country) and it is NOT paying for everyone- just people who don't already have any insurance at all. It will NOT put the insurance companies out of business, or even impact their business very much. People will NOT be able to switch over to public option if they can afford their insurance already. Any insurance company that fires workers in response to this plan is either ignorant or overly greedy, to the point of self-destruction. People who think otherwise should stop watching Nancy Grace, and actually take an hour out of their busy schedules to watch the damn thing.
Phew!

robybang, September 14th, 2009, 12:07 am

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/

According to this, the current House bill would allow anyone to buy this insurance whether or not they can afford their current insurance. Overtime, it would have an impact on the insurance companies and businesses providing insurance to their employers.

Also, by definition, public option IS government run and government funded. However, because of protest over government involvement in public option, Obama has also considered doing co-ops instead, where the government would provide initial backing for privately owned, non-profit companies to provide cheap insurance. These are probably what you are thinking of. However, the co-op idea hasn't garnered support from any of his critics, and his fellow democrats are angry at this because they want a public option, so co-ops seem unlikely.

Smarmodon (Guest), September 14th, 2009, 4:47 pm

I don't trust factcheck.org. Even if they are nonpartisan(impossible) all they do is induce doubt. I don't like their sources, their way of writing, or, frankly, their supposedly nonexistent opinions. As for Obama's health care plan, did you actually watch the video?

robybang, September 14th, 2009, 8:16 pm

You have to doubt, because the fact is, you can't trust government. If they aren't incompetent, then they're usually making under the table deals or sliding in legislation in fine print that no one reads until it all hits the fan and and everyone asks "Why didn't we know about this?" As for the speech, no, I didn't watch it. But I never watched any of Bush's or Clinton's either. Why make exceptions?

Tortus (Guest), September 19th, 2009, 5:28 am

OH NOEZ!!! Where has the witty one line comments gone? And who replaced it with boring political commentary and debate? T-T

Ennokni, September 19th, 2009, 1:17 pm

People can do what they want, I guess.

Also, I just read through I think all of your comments Tortus, and I wish to thank you for them. They were very entertaining.

Tortus (Guest), January 12th, 2010, 4:42 am

You're welcome! But I'll bet they weren't nearly as entertaining as your comics ^-^

AW (Guest), February 13th, 2010, 2:26 pm

Heh.. "Even if they are nonpartisan(impossible) all they do is induce doubt. I don't like their sources, their way of writing, or, frankly, their supposedly nonexistent opinions."

Nonpartisan does not mean lack of opinion. It means they don't align themselves with a party, and if you think that it is impossible to not align yourself with a party, then congrats on being incapable of thinking outside the box of hand fend opinion. Also I love that you don't like the fact that they question things, or what you refer to as "induce doubt"; how very 1984 of you.

And I'm not defending factcheck.org because quite frankly I pay no attention to them, but your argument against them shows a lack on knowledge on your part, not theirs.

paul (Guest), May 8th, 2010, 9:08 pm

mehhh First: you rock. great stuff
Second: I think they D*cked the whole thing up. Some of the crap in this bill is ridiculous and has nothing to do with health care.

Case in point, as a small businessman, I'll have to give 1099's to every business I deal with if I spend over 600 dollars with them. WTF??? Do they realize how much needless paperwork that is? I spend 600 dollars A DAY just buying fuel, and insurance, repairs, parts, etc. And now I'm supposed to get all sorts of information on them so I can report it to the IRS on top of their reporting?

That's like buying a hamburger, getting a receipt, and then giving them a receipt back. And it has nothing to do with health care.



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